Until recently, the US actions in Somalia were relatively unknown. Many had forgotten the men who died there. Thanks to Black Hawk Down that has changed. However, According to Colonel Daniel "Danny" McKnight, US Army (Ret.), the commander of Task Force Ranger in Somalia, some of the move is not accurate- about 20-30% is inaccurate, in fact. While this is not much, there were some points that should be shared.
Since I had a chance to hear him relate the story a short time ago, and to chat with him, I will relate the story.
When the movie was announced, I knew immediately what event they were talking about. I remembered it like it was yesterday - it reminded me of Vietnam at the time, and still does. Not because of the build up, or the reasons for being there, but because of the way the politicians treated it.
Truth be told, the actions that caused it to remind me of Vietnam (though I was not born for Vietnam) were taken so that it would not remind people of Vietnam!
In 1992, a war lord by the name of Mohamed Farrah Aidid, who was in control of the former capitol of the country "Mogadishu" had been killing starving civilians in what was apparent genocide: killing off members of rival clans. The country had been in a famine (still is to some extent, but not nearly to the extent of the early 90's) and Aidid's clan was stealing food from the other clans in addition to killing off the members of those clans. The United Nations had stepped in to provide food to the starving Somali's, with a force of over 25000 Marines (I want to say 25,800.) The Marines in Somalia took some casualties that lead to Newsweek cover stories showing the Aidid militia dragging Marine bodies through the streets, descrating them and dismembering them. After peace was relatively restored, the US sent in Task Force Ranger to find and arrest Aidid.
The deployment of the Task Force almost did not happen. While recently the Clinton administration has tried to liken the situation to the Bay of Pigs invasion, where an outgoing administration allegedly left an operation in swing but didn't detail it for the incoming administration - another story all-together - the situation was vastly different.
When the Clinton administration first took office, the operation was really just in the planning stages. McKnight was basically given all he wanted for a force. It was soon delivered to him in 1993 that he must limit his force - the President didn't want a "build-up" to remind people of Vietnam.
For those of you who do not know, when a military commander is planning an operation, you tell him the objective and he tells you what he needs, to do otherwise is to put lives at risk.
Unfortunately, I can not relate the limit placed on him, but he felt he could still do the job, just having to do it differently. So, training commenced, and as training was preparing to end, the operation was called off - no deployment. The President didn't feel it necessary.
In fact, this was about the time we were hearing about the plans even occurring. Someone at either Ft. Bragg or Ft. Benning (2 of the 3 bases which actually knew about the operation) has leaked it to the media. Soon though, another atrocity occured in Somalia which broke out in the news and a call came in to alert the Rangers they were in fact shipping to Somalia - more limits, a strict number of personel who could be on the ground in Somalia, and no AC-130 gunships for air cover.
An AC-130, is perfect cover for those who don't know. It provides extremely accurate ground fire, and even if it does not hit your area, the sound of an AC-130 firing will scare you away. Just a few shells from an AC-130 can level an average house.
Upon arriving in Somalia, the Rangers wanted to base off of an aircraft carrier. No such luck - the White House didn't want the Navy involved for fear of a reminder of Vietnam. Upon request to set their own base up away from the city, they were ordered to work with the UN and out of the UN's base at the Mogadishu airport, an airport so close to the city that mortars from Aidid's militia constantly landed inside the base! Fortunately, only 1 Ranger died due to these mortars, unfortunately the mortar that killed him landed the day before the Rangers left Somalia.
The Rangers were given an area of the airport, including a hangar to use and live in. While the UN was guarding the airport, Colonel McKnight, General Garrison and others felt it necesarry to set up their own guard posts - a descision that turned out to be wise. They erected walls, guard towers and posted sentries 24/7. They soon began to execute missions and arrest Aidid's men without losing a single man to combat action - until the final mission on 3 OCT.
One such mission was the arrest of Osman Atto, depicted at the beginning of the movie. While the movie basically showed the Somalian convoy stopping, what actually happened was that the convoy stopped, and the occupants fled and fire upon the Rangers as they fled, eventually to give up as the situation was futile.
At one point during the stay there, some Rangers were entering the compound between two UN guard towers when their vehicle exploded, kill them. The vehicle had hit a mine planted in the middle of the night by the Somalis. As it turned out, the UN commander had decided it "to dangerous" to leave the guards out at night. After a chat with the Rangers, he changed his tune. So a few nights later, the guards heard gun fire without returning fire. A party was dispatched where they found the UN guard tower being attacked and the guards were not returning fire. The Rangers layed down some suppressive fire and the Somali probe fled. The UN commander had sent out his guards at night - with guns and no ammo! Not only this, but he ordered them not to fire unless they could positively identify a target! Apparently, this is typical UN procedure.
On 3 OCT the Rangers set out on a mission to retrieve several of Aidid's top lieutenants. This is when things went sour. Aidid's men had previously attempted to shoot the Black Hawks down with RPGs, shooting 10s into their air during their missions. On 3 OCT they shot hundreds. That only 2 hit was lucky.
The movie depicted the helicopters going down in relatively open areas (as open as cities get.) While one helicopter did, the other helicopter actually crashed inbetween 2 buildings making it the extremely difficult to defend and thus remove the bodies from which is why they had to dismantle the helicopter around the bodies.
The movie depicted the Rangers removing the rear-kevlar plates from their body armor. This was started by Lt Col David Hackworth, a man with a poor reputation in the armed forces (for reasons outside the scope of this article) who was friends with a man whose son died in Mogadishu when he was shot in the back. It turns out that the Rangers - who at that time did not have body armor - were using the Delta force's body armor which was designed without rear kevlar plates, due to the type of mission Delta Force was supposed to do.
It was also shown that the Rangers were leaving their night-vision behind. The mission was a daylight mission and based on prior experiences, there was no reason to expect it to be different. A combat pack being heavy enough, there was no reason whatsoever to bring the night vision - despite the movie's implications otherwise.
The movie did however depict one this exactly as it happened: the Shughart and Gordon's sniper actions in defense of the 2nd helicopter. These actions earned Shughart and Gordon each a post-humous Medal of Honor - they died defending that helicopter.
The missions were run with the helicopters inserting the soldiers who would run the missions while the helicopters would circle overhead providing close air support - an action that would not have occurred had their been AC-130s there to provide the air support, an action that resulted in their being shot down instead of hovering at a safe distance.
After the extraction, the successful mission's losses resulted in President Clinton's descision to remove the Rangers from Somalia, without successfully arrested Aidid - and "fulfilling" (stress the quotes) an prediction by Aidid that the American's were "cowards, who would flee if they died."
But, this descision was not made only because of the losses. Aidid at this point was hurting, mostly because they had his money man, Osman Atto. He sent word to the UN that he would back off of his attacks on their food distribution a little bit if the US would pull out of Somalia. President Clinton sent an agreement to the UN immediately after hear the offer. For what it is worth, Aidid lived up to his part of the agreement - he attack the food distribution less often.
Upon arriving stateside and being debriefed, McKnight and Garrison met with President Clinton and the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Clinton posed the question to McKnight and Garrison if they "could work with the UN further in missions like this." McKnight in his own words "raised his hand like he was in 3rd grade again," and related the situation and stores about the UN's guards. To which Clinton responded by looking at the JCOS and says "So, did that really happen?"
While I realize this article is not in a logical order, I'm simply trying to relate the actions that took place. Judge what the results of these actions and whether or not they should have happened the way they did for your selves.
Posted by at February 20, 2003 12:35 AM | TrackBackSkywalker, I can't dispute what information you heard from the Colonel, but there may have been some impact to our forces by how the UN commander handled things there.
I heard from a Somali that the UN commander was from Italy and probably allowed for situations to occur between our forces and Aidid's so that the U.S. would have less of an appetite to stay in Somalia. The reasoning being, that Italy has business interests in Somalia and wants to increase their presence there. By possibly tipping off Aidid's forces, the UN commander could have contributed to the stupid decisions made by UN forces.
I also heard that our Marine commander on ship was prevented by the UN commander from committing backup forces.
Posted by: Spacer at February 20, 2003 12:57 AMWell a) I know for a fact that your information is accurate (Somalia was once an Italian colony and the Italian socialists screwed over President Barre and Aidid which helped lead to the civil war) and b) it coincides with basically everything the Colonel said.
Btw, if you go back to 13 NOV, then is another post about this including a picture of me with the Colonel.
Posted by: skywalker at February 20, 2003 01:01 AMBTW, if I could get in touch with the Colonel (he lives here in Atlanta I *think*) would anyone be interested in some follow on information?
Posted by: skywalker at February 20, 2003 01:03 AMMe! He's an American Hero man, Everyone in the military is a hero. In fact go out and hug a soldier today! :-)
We owe the soldier of the past and in the present our lives, if it were not for their sacrifice and their willingness to put it all on the line we all would not be here.
thats a gem of a story, I only watch Black Hawk Down 2 weeks ago.
One thing I hate about war films is them bending the truth (the body amor here.. and I heard that Pearl Harbour had a different ending for the Japanese). People believe them like there are historical documents...
Schwing
Posted by: Tseste fly at February 26, 2003 03:46 PMThink what you will about Colonel Hackworth, I truly belive his number one concern has always been his men.
That alone may make him unpopular with the command structure (politicians) but never with the soldiers who will ultimately shed their blood to complete the mission
Bill: I hate to tell you, but politicians LOVE Hackworth. It's the soldiers that can't stand him. He has a hideous reputation in the military.
Do you even know what exactly he did to earn this hideous reputation?
Posted by: skywalker at April 28, 2003 05:07 PMGuys... I'm researching about the Battle of Mogadishu, and I have a doubt you may be able to solve... Col. McKnight, at that time,the 3/75 commander? I heard that the commander of Task Force Ranger was actually MajGen William Garrison.
Posted by: 7thPanzer at September 4, 2003 01:51 PM7thPanzer talk to Skywalker, he's the one who was at the speech by McKnight. :-)
If you can find him that is, he's just out of basic and out to his MOS I believe.
I would just like to put my two cents in here guys. None of us were there, none of us are there, and most of us will never go to Mogadishu Somalia. However I have a nieghboor who I can only say is a Special Forces "operator" to protect his top secret clearance, who was there. He has told me most if not all of what he can, and I do not agree with the facts you are producing. William Garrison was the commander of ALL army forces in Somalia. I don't know the Marine commander's name. Colonel McKnight was the highest ranking officer in the field that day. He was "supposed" to be in charge of minute to minute detail, while Garrison and David were to co-ordinate the "bigger picture" of there actions. Do you follow me? Captain Steele was to be in charge of all rangers roping in off of the Blackhawks. And an Un-nameable individual was responsible for co-ordinating other special forces "operators" during the siege. The reason there was so much command is because, the mission was to take 20 minutes, only 5-10 of which us forces were actually on the ground, therefore not enough time for 2 men to co-ordinate an air mission, ground convoy, and 4 chaulks of rangers among other sf operators. I'm not going to ream you all day long I have better thing's to do, but please, please if you are going to speak about the actions of these brave soldier's, make sure that your fact's are correct. Otherwise, you would be discracing the memories of ALL fallen comrades in the history of the United States. Thankyou
Posted by: Hamilton. M at September 6, 2003 11:02 PMhey guys, im a High School student doing a Multi-Media project on Operation Restore Hope. I was wpndering if you can help me with any site as to were i can find photos of the fighting if here is any, i would really appreciate it, and if you could post them here on the forum
Posted by: HS-Student at December 19, 2003 11:08 AMother than the video shot by the black hawks hovering above the battle I don't believe they had time to pose for pics man.
Posted by: muddy at December 19, 2003 06:53 PMThe only video/photos of the fighting that exists (to my knowledge) is from the UH-60s and AH-6s flying from above. However, Col Daniel McKnight, US Army (Ret.) (with whom I've had the pleasure of speaking) currently (last time I checked) lives in Atlanta. I'm sure if you put some effort into it, you could find a way to contact him, perhaps do an interview over the phone, and possibly he may have some photographs.
7thpanzer, who quite awhile ago mentioned correctly that Col. McKnight was the CO of 3/75, and General Garrison was the OIC of TF Ranger. This is correct, and I did not try to say otherwise. I simply stated that McKnight was over the rangers their. He was. Garrison was in charge of the rangers, deltas and SEALs. Not to mention that conventional Army soldiers (there were some there) and the pilots.
I'm also trying to figure out how Hamilton disagrees with the facts I produced. Except for the part about the mission only taking 20 minutes. With the flight plan they used, a twenty minute mission was litterally impossible - so he is wrong. How do I know this? I spoke with Col. McKnight. I read the book. I've done some of my own research. Trust me on this: I'm right.
Posted by: skywalker at December 20, 2003 05:12 PMWell I'd first like to say that yes we are on the same page of who is in charge, that was not my main point. Some of the things you are saying in here just aren't right though. My nieghboor whom I've spoken with and shown this page to, says that the movie actually didn't portray Gary Gorden and Randall Shugart's actions the way they happened. They showed the chopper actually landing on the ground close to c.s. #2. when in all truth Govina couldn't get them that close he had to drop them off almost ten blocks away. On top of that, they jumped what I believe to be 5 feet from the chopper because they couldnt spend that much time of the ground. They fought through those 9+ city blocks to make their way to the crash site. Even before this, the movie portrays them asking permission once, being denied, and then a second time they were granted permission. The truth is they actually asked 3 times. Secondly the reason that some had no backplate armor is because 1 they were extremely confident with what they were doing, and they had good reason, and secondly it was RECOMMENDED for the rangers fast roping in because they thought they would wiegh too much and hit the ground too fast. The C.O. did not require them to take it out, its like telling a police officer to leave his badge at home.
Posted by: M.Hamilton at January 8, 2004 11:06 PMI think the most important thing to remember about this whole thing is that Americans have the best of the best and October 3, 1993, is a very sad day in history, but I am proud of each and everyone of out guys that were there! We were trying to help a country that was killing its self.
Posted by: Tennie at January 9, 2004 04:35 PMMy dad was an Army Ranger that was in Somalia Thank god he escape with his life he always talks about his old war buddies and the flash backs he has could never match what the somalia'ns went through this is an Awesome pg a nice dedication to the veterns
Posted by: Amanda at April 28, 2004 10:15 AMWEll we thank your dad for his service and ou can give him an oohrah from 2 jarheads (me and cwilli.)
Never forget that the somalians didn't help matters. Our mission there (originally) was to give them food. Combat only came because they tried to steal the food and kill the people delivering it!
Posted by: skywalker at April 28, 2004 11:33 AM"Our mission there (originally) was to give them food. Combat only came because they tried to steal the food and kill the people delivering it!"
Geesh! That gives a new meaning to "biting the hand that feeds you".
There always exists a sense of arrogance when we Americans write and report history. Hundreds of nations have fought by our side since we became a nation in 1776.
Let me include the events of 1992-93 in Somalia.
In June 1993, 25 UNOSOM II (UNITED NATIONS OPERATION IN SOMALIA) soldiers from Pakistan were killed in an attack in Mogadishu. Subsequently, clashes between UNOSOM and Somali militiamen in Mogadishu resulted in casualties among civilians and UNOSOM. In a series of armed attacks against UNOSOM II troops throughout south Mogadishu by Somali militia apparently belonging to General Aidid's faction, 10 more Pakistani soldiers were reported missing and 54 wounded. The bodies of the victims were mutilated and subjected to other forms of degrading treatment.
Originally, in 1992, the U.N. reported the number of United States forces was expected to build to approximately 28,000 personnel, to be augmented by some 17,000 UNITAF (Unified Task Force) troops from over 20 countries. In addition to United States forces, UNITAF included military units from Australia, Belgium, Botswana, Canada, Egypt, France, Germany, Greece, India, Italy, Kuwait, Morocco, New Zealand, Nigeria, Norway, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Sweden, Tunisia, Turkey, United Arab Emirates, United Kingdom and Zimbabwe.
On 3 March 1993, the Secretary-General submitted to the Security Council his recommendations for effecting the transition from UNITAF to UNOSOM II
UNOSOM II was established in March 1993 to take appropriate action, including enforcement measures, to establish throughout Somalia a secure environment for humanitarian assistance. To that end, UNOSOM II was to complete, through disarmament and reconciliation, the task begun by the Unified Task Force for the restoration of peace, stability, law and order. (UNOSOM II was withdrawn in early March 1995.)
On October, 1993, 18 United States soldiers of the Quick Reaction Force -- deployed in support but not part of UNOSOM -- lost their lives in an operation in Mogadishu.
U.S., Malaysian, United Arab Emirates and Pakistani rescue forces had gone to the helicopter crash sites, attempting to rescue the Americans.
News wires report that beyond American casualties, “several Malaysian U.N. soldiers and Pakistanis were wounded, according to U.N. military officials. The Malay defense ministry in Kuala Lumpur had earlier said nine of its troops were wounded in the fighting and four Malay armored personnel carriers were burned out and destroyed. The Malaysian Defense Minister was quoted saying the Malay soldier killed was the driver of an armored personnel carrier that was hit by a rocket-propelled grenade” (in the process of extricating U.S. Rangers).
One reporter writes: “Only then, with darkness fallen and nearly three hours after the first helicopter was shot down, did the Americans begin to canvass their U.N. allies for help, according to a U.S. spokesman in Mogadishu.
"They realized they'd have to do it in armor, so we linked them with 24 Malaysian armored personnel carriers, four Pakistani tanks and two armored personnel carriers and a company of armored Humvees."
The spokesman continued by saying, "it came together very quickly" and strongly disputed the report of a U.S. Army officer in Washington that "it took intense pressure from Americans to get the Malaysians and some Pakistani M-113s to deploy" (a scene in the movie “Black Hawk Down.”)
"I will grant you that in this international U.N. military we do not have the same command and control; the unity of command is a lot looser, so sometimes it takes some persuading," the spokesman continued. But he added: "The Malaysians performed magnificently."
Whatever the cause, it is clear that as much as 4 hours passed between the initial American request and the departure of the Malaysian armor -- with Malaysian crews and gunners but American infantrymen inside -- from the airport at 11:30 p.m. The reinforcements reached the Rangers two hours later.
There were plenty of possible explanations for the delay. The Malaysian and Pakistani forces lacked the night-vision equipment and experience with fighting at night, and unlike the quick reaction force they were not on standby alert for rapid deployment. Language barriers and inexperience also came into play, according to U.S. officers who saw situation reports.
The Malaysian force was a newcomer to Somalia, arriving in July, 1993, after a fragile accord with Aideed had degenerated into guerrilla war. Under constant threat of Somali attack, the Malaysians have had little or no time to train with their American allies.
"We just don't do this every day, ask them to provide support under duress after the hours of darkness," the U.S. spokesman said.
Following the fiasco of October 3-4, 1993, the United States immediately reinforced its military presence, but later announced that it would withdraw by early 1994. Belgium, France and Sweden also decided to withdraw. UNOSOM withdrew in March 1995.
As for civilian deaths, an estimated 300,000 people died during this period.
Now, I ask you; why do we ignore the deaths of our comrades of Pakistan, who suffered more casualties than the Americans, and the Malays? At this very moment Pakistan soldiers are dying by the handful in pursuit of remnants of the Taliban and Usama Bin Ladin’s terrorists.
And despite our present feelings about France, their armed forces have paid dearly over the decades, often sharing our misery, from the futile 1983 exercise in Lebanon (on October 23, 1983, just after dawn, 241 Marines died when a truck packed with explosives blew up a Marine barracks at Beirut International Airport. At that same moment a similar explosion blew up a French military barracks a few kilometers away, killing 56 French troops. The same technique would be used again on December 12 in Kuwait against the American and French embassies), to Gulf War one.
The military coalition during Desert Storm, or Gulf War one, consisted of Afghanistan (contributed 300 mujahedin troops; now there is an irony!) Argentina, Australia, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Belgium, Canada, Czechoslovakia, Denmark, Egypt, France (18,000 troops, 60 combat aircraft, 120 helicopters, 40 tanks, 100 armored vehicles, 1 missile cruiser, 3 destroyers, 4 frigates. French casualties were 2 KIA and 25 wounded in action, compared to the British, KIA, 24, nine by U.S. fire, and 10 WIA. Allied Arab casualties listed 39 KIA), Germany, Greece, Hungary, Honduras, Italy, Kuwait, Morocco, The Netherlands, New Zealand, Niger, Norway, Oman, Pakistan, Poland, Portugal, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, South Korea, Spain, Syria (America’s arch enemy, 17,000 troops, 300 T-62 tanks), Turkey, The United Arab Emirates, The United Kingdom, and the United States
Most soldiers are the same no matter what country they fight for. And these overlooked and unappreciated soldiers paid the ultimate price under fire, just like their American counterparts. Let’s not forget this. Respect them, honor them and salute these courageous veterans, regardless of country or nationality, when we meet them on the street.
R. Alexander
Vietnam Veteran
Veteran of the Anti-Sandinista war
Veteran of the Drug Wars of Latin America
It was just my retelling of an account of the action by someone who was there from his point of view. The men of pakistan are no more missed than our own. But let's be honest, the pakistani's were a royal pain in the ass about the whole mess. I also know wwhich nation ordered those gaurds to go out unarmed and not to go out at all and well...dealing witht he UN in general is a big PITA!
Posted by: skywalker at June 17, 2004 08:51 PMI have just finished reading In the company of heros by Michael Durant. A no BS account about what happend in Somalia 1993. All I would like to say is God bless all those soldiers & their families whos loved ones did not return.
Posted by: Paul at July 28, 2004 06:58 AMI am somalian. Hellow my name is Ahmed. My moms brother[killed in olymbic hotel he was a journalist ] and My dads brother[only 15] had died in this war. I am somalian. This was not a somalian war it was only to ethnics the saad and the eaar. They protected somalia. The other ethnics did not want to for there dis-like of general Aided and for the fact they did not live in capital. Everyone in capital had to fight or they would just be killed in there own house[This was there mentalty]. Americans are full of propaganda for I don't care for just 20 soliders over 10,000 somalians were killed. The Americans had no right to start a war with a weak 3rd world country. They came to somalia for they wanted to fight a country only of 8 million. They deserved what was comming to them. I would really like it if you responded to my email.
Posted by: Ahmed Farah at July 31, 2004 12:24 AMSir, the American's didn't want to be there, the United Nations asked us to be there. We originally went to hand out food for your famined country. We did, then the Marines were replaced byt he Army and Aidid's militia began attacking convoys that were handing out food. The Army responded by capturing militia officials. The Army could have done this with out killing a single person except Aidid shot first. We started no war. There wasn't even a war! Americans did not kill 10,000 Somali's. Somali's killed about a million Somali's through clan warfare, food hoarding and medicine hoarding.
Yes, I'm sure you feel that we deserved to have 20 people killed because the United Nations asked us to hand out food, but that would be because you are ignorant. I don't think anyone deserved to die in Somalia, but Aidid's militia decided the path, not us.
Posted by: skywalker at July 31, 2004 03:19 PMYes indeed. Just put it this way. If we wouldve shot at ur people wouldnt they shoot back. Thats exactly what we did. We werent gonna just sit there and let u take the lives of our soldiers who where there to help u out in the first place.
Posted by: zeppelinranger at August 20, 2004 01:27 PMGlad to see someone else has some common sense about this.
Posted by: skywalker at August 20, 2004 01:30 PMI remember being 19 and getting scarce info over the news concerning this situtaion. First I have to say I am proud of our action first to help, and then to survive. All the men were heros and Shugart and Gordon were amazing men that will never be forgotten. I read the book by Mark Bowden and many many articles on the net. I wish every American would read the book just to see what these men went through and how brave they were. I am looking for more info, ie pictures or even to talk to one of the heros that were there. If anyone has any info to help I would appreciate it. Thanks
Posted by: steve barody at September 28, 2004 05:32 PMJUST FOUND THIS SITE.IN THE LAST LITTLE WHILE I HAVE STARTED TO FACE MY PAST.I WAS ON THE GROUND IN THAT HOLE ON THE HORN AND I LOST FREINDS. I WAS ASKED TOGO. AND I THOUGHT HOW MANY TIMES WOULD A MARINE TRAINED FOR WAR GET A CHANCE TO HELP. WHAT I FOUND IN AFRICA LEFT ME VERY BROKEN HEARTED.TO MISTER AHMED FARAH,YOU MAY BE A PATRIOT. BUT MY ONLY TRUE REGRET IS THAT YOUR COUNRTY AND THE TWO FACED PEOPLE IN IT STILL TAKE UP ROOM ON A MAP. AND THAT INCLUDES AIDIDjr A MARINE I SERVED WITH. WHO HAS TAKIN HIS FATHERS PLACE.TODAY AMERICA HAS MOVED ON ,NEW WARS AND MANY LOST SONS.HOWEVER "THE MOGE" I AM AFRAID WILL ALWAYS BE WITH ME.
Posted by: JUST ANOTHER MARINE at October 4, 2005 03:29 PMIt's hard to find one site that talks about the Battle of Mogadishu and actually tells the truth about the help American Army got from the Pakistani and the Malays Army.
It's kinda frustrating...Are you forgetting us? :(
Posted by: Malaysian at October 21, 2008 12:45 PMGod Bless Danny and all our troops in past and present wars... Our prayers are with each and everyone of our brave soldiers...Thank-You!
Posted by: Shawn Mcknight at January 10, 2009 02:33 PM