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Thanks for the reminder Skywalker.

I'm damn proud of our troops and I am also very grateful for thier sacrifice and courage.

To bad we all aren't muddy!

Yes, muddy, here, here! I couldn't have said it better myself. God bless you all :-) xoxo's :-)

*I would have shown a salute to you all in uniform (past, present AND future)...but I don't think there's a way to do it on the computer:-)*

I am very proud to be an American and I will NEVER forget that my freedom was paid for by these brave Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen and of course Marines. God Bless them all. I thank them for what they have given us all.

'the usa kicks ASS!!! YEA!!!! go US Military- God bless those who put their lifes on the line!!!

cwilli: Let's not forget your service to our country in the United States Marine Corps.

and your's Devildog. Thanks

Semper Fi!

Speaking of which, have you heard about my impending deployment to Afghanistan? My unit (HMLA-773) was activated, I'm probably going in June.

Yes Muddy informed me. Good Luck Marine, I am sure you will do us very proud. Keep in mind that your's is the most highly trained Military force in the history of the world. Do your job and get your butt back home!!!

Semper Fi

I was informed yesterday that they might change the afghan deployments to volunteer only, so I don't know what's going on now! I guess I'll find out when i get to 773 in a week.

I had a very civil and intelligent post on the subject some days ago... Ever seen it ?

Any way.
So I'll sum it up. I'm glad the japs attacked on that day, it decided the USA to intervene. If not more jews would have been Dead, we would be speaking german or russian... And so on.
It's also good to see that the question of the legality of the attack sometimes trouble you, or the fact that it is by surprise ...

Each death is sad, but some are more useful. The people who died that day did a lot to shape the post war world. Not knowing how things would have gone without this attack, I would best thank them and pray for them than blame those, who all in all, woke up the spirit.

Oh yes I had mentionned the hundreds of thousands of japanese people put in camps and made a link to guantanamo...

did you really erase that post ?

you'd be very touchy indeed.

I am not sure but I think translated from DF to english that equals "why did you erase my post"....

Hey Cwilli ... You do make intelligent posts !!! I award you with the prize for best translation of DF into english.

(I had a cool link too ...)

I didn't erase that post, muddy did because of the content of the post.

I did read it though, and I'll just say that the situation with the internment of japanese-americans is not even a comparison to the prisoners at gitmo. It's two completely different situations with almost zero similarities.

The internment during ww2 was stupid and wrong. The keeping of terrorists at gitmo...not so much. Did you know we don't know the country of origin of many of the prisoners at gitmo? How can we even release them to their own country in that case?

An attack can not be legal or illegal. It is an act of war, plain and simple. Be it by surprise or not. As for surprise...it was...sort of, kind of... but either or, I say good for them if they can pull that off, it proves strategic prowess. However, they screwed themselves by doing that.

Treacherous, sure. Illegal? War can not be illegal, it's war. By definition, you do everything in your power to win, including attack by surprise if you can.

Well I did not read the post. However I know someone who was at gitmo in charge of security. He is an MP and an officer. He told me that the prisoners at gitmo have much better living condition than the soldiers. The living conditions of the soldiers there is very bad. At least while he was there. He told me that even though the are in Cuba there still are people there who ensure that the prisoners human rights are upheld. Bottom line they get better treatment at gitmo than they did wherever they came from. They have 3 squares a day, daily showers, a real restroom and MUCH BETTER HEALTH CARE THAN WE GET AT A MUCH BETTER PRICE. Much more than they deserve if you ask me. I would not have spared them if it were my decision. That's the point that everyone is missing. We spared them and they are lucky to be alive. We could have killed them and nobody would have known any better. They will/would have killed us (You, me or your family) if given a chance.

I have a solution. It is not very PC. Can you guess???

cwilli:
They report this stuff on the news from time to time....of course not very often though. With conditions like that, I wonder if some of them even *want* to go home.

"It's not very PC"

That's ok. The less "PC" people are, the happier *I* am. Besides, when people are not "PC", they show their true nature and that they're not afraid of being themselves...that's ALWAYS refreshing not to mention a little scary at times :-)

By the way, how long was your friend at gitmo and when did he get back?

Judging from what I've read int he Marine Corps Times of late about the prisoners filling their own drinking cups and bowls with urine and throwing the urine (still hot) on the guards, I'd say that they still want to go home.

They are terrorists, do you think they really care about human rights?

The only reason these people are unhappy given the living conditions, is that they are being held captive by infidels.

Some of these people are innocent and have been held for no reason for about one year and a half. Some have already been released (after one year) because they were innocent.
I don't think that any of you if in service of your country or beliefs would appreciate being held for more than one year whatever health care you get.
Whatever these people have done, sue them, and have it done, but do so in an orderly manner.
it's so easy to pick up one guy in the field blame him for no reason (or have him blamed by people who look for the reward) and them deprive him of any right...
We'll see what your highest court has to say about that...

ANd here some news
One on a guy called Padilla
http://www.hrw.org/english/docs/2003/12/18/usdom6764.htm
http://www.aclu.org/SafeandFree/SafeandFree.cfm?ID=14609&c=206

And one I can not find in english... amazing... it's major news in France ... strange indeed

you'll get news

THere you go :
The US court of appeal of san francisco (probably fag liberals you'll say) stated this :

http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/ca9/newopinions.nsf/429E2096892C3D8388256E00005FEB65/$file/0355785final.pdf?openelement

Have a good day and try to remedy to your hatred.

I know about Jose Padilla, whose captivity I do not agree with. But he was also an American citizen - that makes his situation different.

Our highest court really can't say much about what the military does to people of unknown origin, captured in another country, during a war. Why? Because it is not an issue addressed by our constitution, which the Supreme Court's sole purpose is to correctly interpret the constitution when a question about the constitution arises in a court case.