May 27, 2004
Fantasia Wins American Idol
LOS ANGELES - Summertime promises to be sweet indeed for Fantasia Barrino, the newly crowned "American Idol." Barrino, who wowed viewers with her rich, gospel-tinged performance of pop tunes, including the Gershwin standard "Summertime," claimed the victory Wednesday for her 2-year-old daughter, Zion.
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Posted by Skywalker at May 27, 2004 09:38 AM
I preferred Diana DeGarmo personally. I think, and I'm coming from the background of performing concerts in a band at various positions and having assisted friends in recording albums (not mentioning other credits I have in this area), Fantasia had a beautiful voice for singing with a group. Which makes sense given her background (Father is a preacher so she probably sang in the church choir.) DeGarmo has a great solo voice. Both lacked stage presence.
Both had great voices, but given that this is a solo competition DeGarmo should have won in my not so humble opinion.
Well, actually, I personally can't stand "American Idol" (or any of the reality shows out there for *that* matter). I have to agree with what Avril Lavigne said about the show....basically it was that really, nobody wins because once you're signed to a recording contranct, you have to play by the companies rules and that you're basically at their mercy. You become their poppet in a way. That's actually one of the many reasons I never persued a career in music myself. However, I must say.....I do wish Barrino all the luck in the world. Besides, good for her for not giving up in life when it comes to her being there and supporting her daughter. It sounds like she really fought hard to get where she is. Sounds like she's really working hard to set a good example. Kudos!
"I'm coming from the background of performing concerts in a band at various positions..."
Did/Do you play/sing/what?
played guitar (lead and rhythm) played guitar and sang, played bass
I helped some local bands with production work (and some instrumental stuff) on their demo CDs they they used to get contract (a couple did but have subsequently gone the way of the buffalo.)
Not to mention my dad played professionally for many years. My family has alot of background in music. My grandfathers both sang in quartets of various natures. My mom has done the choir thing ans olos tuff at church and elsewhere. My dad still plays. I taught myself what I know. I can play guitar, I can play bass, I know the concepts behind drums and piano but couldn't played them to be worth a crap (though it does help in telling the guys playing what I'm wanting them to do.) I was in charge of music for the youth group at the last church I attended. So, you can say I know a thing or 2 about whether or not someone can sing, what kind of voice they have, although I'll be the first to tell you that due to my background being completely non-classical, I can't read music and know very little about the technial side of things. This shocks many people who hear me play, though I don't think I'm personally all that great.
Impressive! And here I thought you were just a one-track-minded Devil dog. :-P
Actually, quite a few people *I* know who are musically inclined can't read music either (personally, I think that shows *true* talent)....or at least they're just a bit familiar with it but that's about it. Myself included. I used to sing a looonnnngggg time ago in church as well but these days, other than my kids, there's only ONE person (sometimes two) that I will sing with/for and he's usually the ONLY person that I can't say "no" to (vocally, that is)....and strangly enough, it's not muddy ...go figure. Muddy, however, did buy me a guitar a few years ago. I *love* playing it (or shall I say learning *how* to play it) but, alas, I just don't have much time these days to pick it up. :-( You sound like how *I* used to be on the piano. I could play the notes enough to familarized myself with the tune of a song but that was pretty much it. But that was in my "past" life ...and BOY is it the past! :-)
I know muddy plays too right?
I'm pretty eclectic despite what some people think.
"I know muddy plays too right?"
He played the bass at one time...also fooled around with the drums too. Come to think of it, *he* even had a band at one time - they were "breaking up" when we first met - (just call me yoko ono....no, no - kidding, kidding ). That's pretty much how he (as *he* puts it) "destroyed his voice".
"I'm pretty eclectic..."
(ugh! Big word so early in the morning..lol) Aren't we all to a degree?
fooled around with the drums? I'm a master drummer!, haha.. as for the Bass I still have it, get it out at least once a year to pretend I remember how to play it.
As for Idol, it's a joke, waste of time and a scourge on our country.
"I'm a master drummer!, haha"
Yeah, and may I add...*cough, cough* bull crap *cough*. Pardon me...I had a little something caught in my throat.:-P
"As for Idol, it's a joke, waste of time and a scourge on our country."
Yes but, to each his own.
personally, i cried when fanyasia sang..i could feel" her. diana did nothing to touch my soul...
I couldn't feel a thing when fantasia sang. Her voice and stage presence did nothing for me. I liked DeGarmo's voice - she had no stage presence either.
I don't think you know what you are talking about. What white Americans have to understand is that black and white come from totally different background. We dance different ,especially we have rythmn and we sing different music. Diana screams when she sings and alway gets off key. Diana is so lucky like Brittney Spears, who is markets herself after Janet JAckson, with the dancing because neither one can sing. Degarmo should not have been there in the first place. Degarmo can not I repeat can not beat Latoya signing. I felt that this was fixed to get Latoya out of the race to give Degarmo a chance because white americans knew that Latoya was diana's competition. But it was stupid of them to think that Fantasia wasn't. Diana was the lucky one. Fantasia deserved it. The only reason whites didn't want fantasia to win because she was black. And if you ever notice all three series of American Idol they matched them up as black and white in the finals. Racist America did not want two black in the final, because white amereicans think that America Idol means them and that no other race is an American
Wow! That's one of the most *asinine* thing I've ever heard. First of all...I'm NOT sticking up for American Idol because as I stated above...I HATE ALL "reality" show's. They are personally a waiste of *my* valuable time.
"We dance different"
We ALL dance differently you idiot ...colour has NOTHING to do with it. I dance very differently than my husband...as a matter of fact, I can count on ONE finger the times I've ever *even* danced WITH him. I love him dearly AND he DOES have his very own rythmn ...but his is VERY different from mine.
"... and we sing different music."
What "different" music are you refering to? "Black" music compared to "white" music? I hope that's NOT what you're saying because *if* it is then you need to get a brain capable of holding a proper clue!!!! FYI Music is music.......IT HAS NO COLOUR!!!!!!!
"The only reason whites didn't want fantasia to win because she was black."
Tracy: Is that the kind of excuse you use for every situation in life. If so then I would HIGHLY suggest you work seriously on getting that worthless chip off your shoulder...your judgement just might be a little less cloudy.
Oh and btw...from what I *have* heard of Fantasia from what they played on the news, I'm not sure if I liked her voice anyway. I'm trying to give her the benifit of the doubt because the ONLY taste of he voice that I recieved was when she was singing VERY high notes and Belting it out but it was at THAT point that her voice slightly resembled Macy Gray...and I can't *stand* macey gray's voice. Like I said, that was only a *slight* taste that I got.
If skywalker was within reach I'd smack him for giving this trashy show space on my site. However he's too far away. Now I have to deal with people who have no concept of reality, and insist on using the race card when things don't go their way.
Let's all put this into perspective, IT'S TV, UNLESS IT'S LIVE NEWS IT'S FAKE. Get over it, it's a damn show people, for "Entertainment" purposes only.
"If skywalker was within reach I'd smack him for giving this trashy show space on my site."
Hey...you've posted *your* share of stupid things too. Leave skywalker alone....you're the one who gave him the power of posting anyway, babe.:-P Besides, I think you can "forgive" him for just *one* "bad" post.
"However he's too far away."
Well, if you want to do *something* to "punish" him *that* badly then give him a call and when he picks up the phone, quickly hang up on him - there....that'll show him.
Hey, baby...your sites repeating yourself....and other people too.
Hey tracy. I performed in front of about 2000 people when I was 17. What's the largest crowd you've performed for? I've had regular (as in, repeat business) gigs, have you? None to both? Okay then SHUT UP! Cultures are different...well no ****! You're without a doubt the most bigotted person I've ever met. Now, why don't you go get that chip off your shoulder and make something of yourself in stead of assuming things about other people's thoughts. You know what happens when you assume right? You make an ass out of u and not me!
Mudd: sorry, I don't watch it myself...but my sister was watching it for the finals plus EVERYONE was frigen talking about it the next day which was a slow news day. It made forconversation did it not?
"sorry, I don't watch it myself...It made for conversation did it not?"
Ahh...yes. We'll learn from that one, eh? hehehe
btw, skywalker, just out of curiousity, do you write anything yourself - lyrics, melody.....a cantata (hehe) or do you just go with what you're given?
I never have written any lyrics that were worth a flip. I have however done some music. I got asked to play bass for this band one time (biggest performance I've ever done was with this band...) I'd not played alot of bass prior to this and they'd not had a bass palyer at all prior to this so they just had me do all the bass lines and such. Turned out really good! Ended up rearranging some of there songs to fit the bass lines in better! I had some neat effects going ont he bass too. That band was awesome, great musicians all. Vocalist was and is still a GREAT vocalist/lyricist. Problem was they couldn't keep the lead guitarist off coke long enough to do much. Sad too.
Bes band I layed with that was my 2nd or 3rd band (i have long forgotten which.) We practiced for months but Only played...twice. 5 member band...2 guitarists a bass palyer a drummer and a vocalist. Vocalist wasn't GREAT, but his voice went well with the music (muchmore important I think) and the other guitarist...well Evan is without a doubt the most talented guitar player I've seen, amatuer or pro to date, bar none. Problem was the vocalist was flaky and I made out with the bass player's girlfriend. (Hey, she told me they were just friends! Who was I to argue?! :-)
"I never have written any lyrics that were worth a flip. I have however done some music."
I'm actually the opposite. I've written tons of lyrics over the past 15 years (I think). Some I've torn to shreds and have thrown away because they were cruel and unusual punishment to my eyes - not to mention my intellegence. Funny, though, I've never performed them nor have I had anything (so far) copyrighted (or however you say it). Very rarely have I put a "tune" to them...and mostly if I do...I usually forget how it goes anyway.:-P
"Vocalist wasn't GREAT, but his voice went well with the music (muchmore important I think)"
Isn't that funny? There *are* singers out there who *are* great to the music they sing to - BUT give them anything else and you'll be begging for ear plugs.:-) However, personally, *I* feel that a truely talented vocalist is one who you can give them *any* style to sing to and they can hold their own quite well.
"Problem was the vocalist was flaky and I made out with the bass player's girlfriend. (Hey, she told me they were just friends! Who was I to argue?! :-)"
Ahhh...your first "groupie", huh?:-D lol....However, the question *is*.....did the bass player *know* they were - uh - "just friends"?:-)
BTW...I forgot to ask...what style/"genre" do you usually play or is it whatever comes your way?
Various forms of rock. I've been in bands that played punk, metal, soft rock... you get the picture. Mostly whatever came my way.