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I liekd it too, although his results were definately exaggerated by the fact that before he started the McDiet(including no excercise) he used to excercise all the time.

Some people attempt to discredit the movie this way.

I disagree, I think the film effectively illustrates a point, as a documentary should. Documentaries are not about controlled experiments they are about communicating a point of view (hopefully one based in fact).

While the fiml itself is not for the whole family, the message is. Morgan Spulock points out for us how the high-profit margin, corporate fast food beast has for many years targeted the marketing of their hazardous product to children.

"Eating healthy is not enough, eat certified organic to protect yourself from the poison and tyranny of GMO and chemical corporations like Monsanto and ADM."
-Me

http://www.mercola.com/2001/aug/8/gmo_crops.htm
http://npic.orst.edu/manuf.htm

True that, Organic is the only way to go imho. (unless its just stupid expensive such as Green Peppers $6-7 per pound! when conventional is 1.99)

My family saw more of an improvement by going to home made bread than anything else: our cholesterol dropped by 50% in 6 months.

We've not gone organic on everything else (somethings we have) but we've turned beef into an "every now and again" thing and we've all but cut out pork.

Results? Less tan 50% of our original cholesterol, lower blood pressure.

I tell you ... Times are changing ... Industrialisation started with agriculture.
We're backing away globally from excesses ...

I do some bread home too.. Little success. But you should taste my ice creams, home made jams, pizzas ...
Meat should be a once in while thing ..
I spent 3 weeks in india eating no meat at all with no need for it (chease, and Dahl can replace it)

I don't know about the US, but if all the french cows had to eat grass, they would need 7 times the size of france to get enough of it.
The only way we can eat so much cows is by having them eat soja and corn, soja and corn need lots of water pesticides and NPK ... This is bad for water resources ...

VOTE NADER.

DF: Would you like a good recipe for home made honey wheat?

I prefer to get my meat and protein intake from chicken, fish or turkey, very healthy alternatives to beef. Though, I do enjoy a steak once in a while, but I don't like mine cooked rare, I prefer medium-well. I do enjoy certain forbidden fruits from time to time, but over all it's birds and fish.

DF: Would you like a good recipe for home made honey wheat?

I prefer to get my meat and protein intake from chicken, fish or turkey, very healthy alternatives to beef. Though, I do enjoy a steak once in a while, but I don't like mine cooked rare, I prefer medium-well. I do enjoy certain forbidden fruits from time to time, but over all it's birds and fish.

"My family saw more of an improvement by going to home made bread..."

Ahh yes...home made bread. I used to make home made bread myself about 5 yrs. ago. All by hand. I was good at it too. After a while, I didn't have time to do it "all by hand" anymore so one day Muddy and I agreed that a bread *machine* would be the perfect thing for us to have. Normally, I'm just fine when it comes to figuring out the kitchen apliances. ...but this machine? I will never be able to figure out that damn thing! This is why *muddy* makes all of our bread now.:-/

we use a bread machine. Doing it by hand is far to time consuming

"I liekd it too, although his results were definately exaggerated by the fact that before he started the McDiet(including no excercise) he used to excercise all the time."

Well, I think Morgan Spurlock's point was to show the affects it has on the "normal" average person. Even though exercising has become the "in" thing to do (and in some cases PC), a *huge* percentage of American's still *don't* exercise and so I think he was saying "hey...how my body deteriorated so fast and this is what's going to happen to your body too over a period of time without proper management.

There is actually an interview of him found here:
http://www.harrisonline.com/audio/listings/morganspurlock.htm

Now, I do agree with what he is saying about how corporations should make the ingrediants and other information about their food eaiser to find (like printing it on their products *I* think) so that people *can* make a better informed decision on what they eat because it *is* indeed *personal* responsibility. (though, *I* don't think it should be any surprise to people that fast food places don't serve the healthiest of foods because of all the proccesed junk, preservatives and hydrogenated oils [which, btw, hydrogenated oils are suppossed to be taken off the market or at least printed on every label by 2006] that are in these foods. I mean, come on, it's not like these places are like grandma's house where tender loving care is put into preparing and making every single meal....but now I'm just rambling).

You can also, if you care to, check out "the other side" of the story by a woman named Soso Whaley here:
http://www.harrisonline.com/audio/listings/sosowhaley.htm

Now, *she* claims to have eaten McDonalds food and *lost* weight because she *did* continue her normal exercise routine AND she - according to her - made "healthy" choices. Now, pardon me for sounding seemingly a little patronizing here but, making "healthy" choices at a *fast food* restaraunt is like me saying, "Hey, I'm going to go over to my silver ware drawer and take out a knife and cut myself with it.". Then I walk over and take the dullest knife out of the drawer and proceed with my task. Now, I may not do as much damage to myself right off with the dull knife...but I;m still inflicting injury on myself. So all in all, I found that part of her argument ridiculous. Besides, Not everyone in America actually *has* an exercise routine because alot of people are just "too busy". So I found Morgan Spurlock's "experiment" to be more realistic in reflecting our society and Soso Whaley's "experiment" to be reflecting more of a "dream" society where everyone *does* exercise.

Oh, yes, one last thing. Morgan Spurlock mentioned in his interview how children have been influenced by the fast food corporations (and he wasn't just talking about micky ds). I've noticed this myself. He went to a school and showed the children 3 pictures. One was of George Washington, one was of Jesus and the last was of Ronald McDonald. Well, some of the kids knew who George Washington was, however, not *one* knew who Jesus Christ was (of course, I guess he *did* go into a *Jewish* school to do this so...), but every single kid knew who Ronald McDonald was. Sad...not surprising but sad, not to mention - scary.:-/ I can actually vouch for this one myself. I was sitting on the couch the other day with our youngest when a commercial came on. I grabbed for the remote to turned it because I realized it was Ronald McDonald but I turned it right as the jingle was comming on. Now, our youngest has never even *been* to a McDonalds (or any other fast food, for that matter) - ever! However, right out loud this kid looks at the tv and yells "McDonals!" just because the theme song was so recognizable. Now, every fast food corporation has every right to advertise how, when and where they want BUT, I personally find this down right insidious toward our youth. Well, that's MHO.:-)

"Doing it by hand is far to time consuming"

Very true, but I actually liked doing it by hand. Unfortunately, I do not have time for that anymore myself and the machine is indeed much quicker.:-) Of course, I may have to sell my soul to the devil in exchange for the knowledge of how to use it but....:-P