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i thought you didnt belive everything you read? do you expect a Major to say, "this place is a $hit hole and going nowhere fast". of course hes going to put the best face on, he wants an eagle.

one "good" story vs hundreds of bad ones? lets see, are more or less us troops being killed every month? hmm, lets see am i wrong or is the "green zone" now having attacks in it? oh, btw what was that little snipit in the newspaper about 300+ tons of weapons not being secured and accounted for? oh, and dont hold your breath because "democratic" elections wont be held in january. even if they hold an "election", democracy sure wont take place.

Problem is mooseboy, this isn't the only good story. There are lots, they just don't get alot of media attention.

The 380 tons of explosives...good one. I guess you didn't catch the part about NBC having a reporter embedded with the soldiers who went into the place they were supposed to be in only to find an empty building. We don't know when those weapons were taken, but it certainly wasn't buy looters with the family sedan. Not to mention that they were in their rawest form: powder. Which means without special equipment, they were useless. So, this actually confirmed my speculation that Saddam was using the time people like you bought him in the UN to ship his weapons to Syria.

BTW, these explosives are commonly used for exploding nuclear warheads. But, sure the intentions Saddam had for this was something else, after all, he had no weapons or weapons programs.

Oh, mooseboy...you're such a "glass half empty" person aren't you.

"i thought you didnt belive everything you read?"

I don't, but when it comes from someone who has witnessed this stuff first hand then....yeah, I *do* believe it.

LOL the 380 tons story was supposed to be the election-eve hammer from cbs to crush the president, problem is the even more sinister (and ignorant) NYT beat them to it.
The best part is it's a Non-Story, those tools make me laugh.

Hey Mooseboy, the sky IS falling! Everything is horrible! Everything is Bush's fault!

can you think more like a Democrat?

BOO! I bet I scared you....

cwilli: now that's just mean!

you can belive any counter propaganda spin you wish. it doesnt change the reality. that interview wasnt fact, it was one High ranked officer in the army giving his OPINION of the situation and he wasnt even that Over enthusiastic about it.

lets just take a peak at what he said,
""I'll just say this up front: There are some bad things that happen here in Iraq, no one can refute that," said Varney, whose unit is not involved in combat operations. "What that means, in our daily routine, is that we have to be extremely cautious when we go places outside our immediate secure area. We go fully prepared, we go with the right armored vehicle, we go with the right force protection, we go with the right personal protective equipment, because it's a lifesaver."

this is baghdad, not even fallujah or some of the other "hot" spots.

i guess when i read the morning paper and see 3 troops ambushed in najaf, or 2 killed by an IED in fallujah..... all that is just anti american liberal spin right?

the fact that the administration in charge of iraq has NO idea if the weapons were there or not just shows how idiotic this war and the people that planned it all are. 50 tons chemical weapons here, 50 tons of biological weapons there. i guess its just like sand right?

and would you get over that Syria bit already. you think we didnt have satellites watching iraq 24/7? you would see truck convoys moving that material. if things were moved we would have seen alot of traffic around the "sites" where all the stuff was. i guess if we invade syria and cant find weapons, then folks will start saying it was transferred to egypt next, maybe sudan after that right? who knows were these weapons are, maybe some of it was sliped into norway.

For someone who despises our leadership so much you sure an abundance of faith in our leaderships ability to watch every square inch of Iraq 24/7.

Not that I'm an expert but from the many pieces of evidence I've seen it's Impossible to watch every person and every vehicle in Iraq 24/7... cloud cover and dust storms make some lovely natural cover when being watched by satellites.

Hey mooseboy, when you see 3 soldiers killed on the cover of the newspaper and they never cover the good things that are happening in Iraq, I'd say that's spin.

No one knows when those explosives disappeared. They were last seen by UN and IAEA inspectors in January. The war started in March. Yeah, it's the US' fault. The only way we could have protected them would have been to invade earlier, but we didn't do that because we only waited the better part of a year in our "Rush to war."

BTW, if we put all the spy satellites in orbit into a position to watch Iraq, there is no way we could watch in inch of it 24/7. It simply is not possible. Not to mention weather problems and the simple fact of Iraqi intelligence probably knowing when many of our satellites passed over.

BTW, Baghdad IS one of the hotspots!

Come on man, the man isn't saying things are perfect, no one is saying that. We're just saying it isn't the dire disaster you make it out to be!

isnt it ironic how that little "truth" thing comes around. as it turns out weapons Were looted AFTER we invaded iraq. the soldiers witnessed it but did nothing.

kinda funny how this comes out and is burried on page A11.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6405578/

I have a couple problems with what you're saying.

The soldiers a) all but one could not confirm that they were looting the explosives, just that they were looting - the one said it was in bags marked hexmine (not even an explosive in and of itself) so I'm wondering where this soldiers learned to read arabic and how stuff stored in barrels got put into neatly labelled bags? and b) this took place after soldiers who initially got there during the battle for Baghdad and found nothing. c) Explain to me how vehicles (probably cars and similar smaller vehicles) took 380 metric tons of white poweder which was in barrels and supposedly marked with the IAEA seal that no one could ever find.

Bottom line though? The whole thing is a basic non-story since those explosives require pretty specialize equipment to use in the form they are in, so unless they looted that stuff also.

It was on the front page of Foxnews.com under their headlines section.