July 30, 2005

A good reason to be a virgin...

KAMPALA (Reuters) - A Ugandan member of parliament has pledged to reward girls for their chastity by paying their university fees if they are virgins when they leave school, a local newspaper said Wednesday.

Bbaale County MP Sulaiman Madada said any girl in his district who wanted to take part in the scheme aimed at promoting girls' education would be given a gynecological examination by health workers to check they were virgins.

Full Story @Excite News

**I guess this is one way to try to cut down on the spread of diseases even though there are flaws with it from the start. However, I wonder how many girls from Kayunga will actually get to go to the university. Better yet, I wonder how many poor girls have been forced to give up their innocence already.***

Posted by Mrs Muddy at July 30, 2005 12:10 AM



Comments

the problem is, just because a woman doesnt have an hymen doesnt mean shes Not a virgin. why dont they just give people aids test instead, and all women a college education.

Posted by: mooseboy84 at August 1, 2005 12:46 AM

"why dont they just give people aids test instead, and all women a college education."

There you go. Or why don't they offer a free education to both sexes if they promise to use protection (and teach them how to use it properly when they give it out). Of course, you could only prove (in that case) that a woman is using birth control. It would be a little harder to *prove* that a guy used protection. But hey, I'll give them kudos for trying.

Posted by: mrs. muddy at August 1, 2005 08:15 AM

You can still tell without a hymen if a woman has been around the block. And, how about people do what I and millions of other people have done for decades if not centuries and been better for it: work for your education.

You usually appreciate things less when you don't have to work for them.

Posted by: skywalker at August 1, 2005 08:28 PM

are you a gynocologist all of a sudden? please tell me how You can tell if a womans been around a block.

its pretty hard to pay for college when your a subsitance farmer with 6 kids.

its actually funny, most people in africa have practiced more True capitalism in 1 year, then you have your entire life.

Posted by: mooseboy84 at August 1, 2005 08:51 PM

are you a gynecologist all of a sudden? please tell me how You can tell if a womans been around the block?

its pretty hard to pay for college when your a subsistance farmer with 6 kids.

its actually funny, most people in africa have practiced more True capitalism in 1 year, then you have your entire life.

Posted by: mooseboy84 at August 1, 2005 08:53 PM

"You can still tell without a hymen if a woman has been around the block."

Are you talking about basing the "evidence" on the size of the woman and/or how much "damage" has been done inside? That's the only thing I can think of. Really, though, I think it's pretty safe to say that when that skin has been torn that *something* excitable (or forceful in some cases) had to have happen for it to be absent to begin with.

Posted by: mrs. muddy at August 1, 2005 09:09 PM

"work for your education."

That is a good point. They could set up some kind of work program that could be in exchange for their education but I think right now, the officials are more concerned about cutting down on STDs which is the point of this "program".

Besides, you work for your education in the sence of hitting the books hard and working your brain to achieve your goal of a degree (I realize I'm preachin' to the choir on that one). And in this case, these women are working hard at staying celibate which, is NOT an easy thing for most people. I have alot of respect for a person who can practice abstinence. It's not an easy thing to do. Sometimes I don't know whether to give those people a medal for success or whether to smack them upside the head tell them to quit torturing themselves, hand them some condoms and tell them to go fall in love and have some fun.:-D

Posted by: mrs. muddy at August 1, 2005 10:04 PM

i dunno mooseboy, are you a gynecologist?

and your statement about capitalism is only correct if you believe true capitalism requires fraud to be legal.

but whatever, I'm beyond caring anymore.

Posted by: skywalker at August 2, 2005 01:07 AM

i dunno mooseboy, are you a gynecologist?

and your statement about capitalism is only correct if you believe true capitalism requires fraud to be legal.

but whatever, I'm beyond caring anymore.

Posted by: skywalker at August 2, 2005 01:09 AM

no im not a gynecologist, but you said you can definately tell if a woman has, "been around the block" if she doesnt have a hymen. i just want to know what your methodology is at obtaining this information.


secondly, my comment about africans experiencing more capitalism than you is absolutely correct. im not saying capitalism requires fraud, im just saying they LIVE it, you dont.

you enjoy the luxuries of a social democracy. you take the average ugandan, and they live in true capitalism.

If you dont have food to eat, you starve to death. no money for education, your children dont go to school. no money for the few hospitals in the country, you dont go to the doctor. most people arnt vacinated for common ailments, and most people dont pay taxes.

that is true capitalism. i always wonder why more people dont move to 3rd world countries. low taxes, few regulations on business, all the big game animals you can hunt.... i mean really, its every man for himself. the rich have their own militals, i mean, im surpised uganda isnt one of the top nations for immigration. i always hear people in western nations complaining about taxes and what not, it just seems like uganda would be a paradise for them.

i wonder did ludwig van mises ever live there?

Posted by: mooseboy84 at August 2, 2005 03:34 AM

I've never attended a public school system, I've never lived off the government's dime short of working for the government. I work hard to ensure I don't starve - and my principles stop me from ever accepting those funds. In African nations, they are constantly being defrauded and live under a dictatorship. A lack of liberty does not mix with capitalism.

Posted by: skywalker at August 2, 2005 08:50 AM

sorry, not attending public schools or not being on welfare is good enough.

you probably drive a car that is made of steel that is subsidized by tariffs. you drive down roads that were built and maintained by taxpayers funds. you eat Food that is subsidized by taxpayers. your probably take medicines which were in part funded by research paid for by the governemnt..... i can go on and on.

STOP MOOCHING OFF ME! im am tired of paying for people like you who bennifet from government every day of their life. as a tax payer in a state that gets less than 90 cents on dollar back from the federal government; im tired of YOU bennifting from my paycheck.


oh and yes, the public school system is the reason this country is the as great as it is today. its also the reason the country is on decline, when you are creating a class of people who fail the system and are under educated... even on the collegiate level, your just shooting yourself in the foot on the world stage.

ive never said anything bad about capitalism. you want to talk about socialism as some asbtract philosophy thats practiced in france. you dont understand how it helps and bennifets your life Everyday, without even being on "welfare". i can just see the forrest through the trees, you cant.

PS. i hope you dont go to georgia state, that is a Public univeristy system. [tax payer funded]

Posted by: mooseboy84 at August 3, 2005 11:12 AM

still no reply? damn ive been waiting for one. i guess Silence Is Acceptance?

Posted by: mooseboy84 at August 5, 2005 11:18 AM

Tariffs are not subsidies, they are taxes. Slight difference.

Toads are a legitimate function of government. most medicines are developed privately, the ones that aren't, are usually developed because of a military use.

I don't go to GSU, though I have no problem with state funded schools: I have a problem with federally funded schools. Also, one should keep in mind that most public colleges in Georgia generally run between 10-20% of their budgets from taxpayer funds. The rest come from tuition, fees and alumni donations. And next to none is from federal money, and when it is, it is usually, once again, military related research money. So, GA students aren't mooching off you unless you're from GA.

If you're wondering, my big beef with federally funded schools? Easy: someone in California shouldn't have to pay for the education of someone in Alabama. Not to mention, federal money ALWAYS comes with a mandate. So yeah you get that federal money that your school may desperately need for textbooks, or a new gym or new desks, or teacher's pay, but the government says you have to spend it on computers instead.

I have no problem with government research grants when it is for a military purpose. Military research is usually leads to a practical civilian purpose (GPS comes to mind) and is used for the defense of this country directly or indirectly.

I do however, have a problem with government art grants. I also have a problem with student loans where the interest ispaid by the government until you graduate. I have a problem with federal welfare programs, that take my money and give it to someone who usually just didn't bother to get ane ducated or is just plain lazy - and subsequently bitch when we tell them to try and get a job or we'll gank their welfare.

I don't like tariffs generally speaking (there are exceptions) they interfere with the free market in a way that isn't necesarilly beneficial to consumers. I do like them as a means of ecnomically punishing countries we don't get along with at the present time.

I don't like the eminent domain abuse currently going on in this country. Kelo v. New London is an absolute disgrace to property rights and shows the same respect towards them that Marxist socialism does: none.

See here is the thing, governments have legit functions on which to spend money: post office which is required by law to support itself, military, infrastructure (I.E. - Roads, utilities) because these are thigns private industry or local governments either don't do very well or simply can not do. On the other hand, private industry does do travel well. Private industry and local governments do schools extremely well. On the latter, if you don't believe me, look at the terrific decline in public education since the Department of Education was created in the 1980s under my hero, Reagan. It was as if we'd jumepd off a cliff.

See, socialism is an economic system that strives for economic equality under a government. This can never be achieved, because it punishes achievement, and rewards failure. That flies in the face of our instincts as humans. But government spending on legit functions isn't bad. It's why the founders enabled the government to collect taxes.

But redistributing income, just because it isn't "fair" that one person gets paid less than another or seemingly "can't" achieve when usually they just don't take the initiative to try, is a travesty. That's what socialism does, in a nutshell.

And silence is, I'm deployed and work long days and don't have time to reply to every message left for me, everywhere.

Posted by: skywalker at August 5, 2005 07:29 PM

"...the Department of Education was created in the 1980s under my hero, Reagan."

I believe it was *Carter* who created the DOE. Not Reagan.

Posted by: mrs. muddy at August 5, 2005 10:04 PM

I think you're wrong but then, I might have my dates mixed up.

Posted by: skywalker at August 5, 2005 10:10 PM

yup, you were right. Carter signed it in '79 and is was activated in 1980, which is probably why I thought 1980s.

Posted by: skywalker at August 5, 2005 10:17 PM

"yup, you were right."

Oh, I knew I was right all along (which makes you WRONG - btw.:-P ). But I do love it when someone puts it in writing - thank you.:-D

***mrs. muddy does gloating, victory dance***

Posted by: mrs. muddy at August 5, 2005 10:32 PM

"STOP MOOCHING OFF ME! im am tired of paying for people like you who bennifet from government every day of their life"

BWAHAHAHAHA!

I had forgetten about how funny this website was.

Doesnt the +25% of his paycheck going directly to the governement count?

The most hilarious thing about your statement is that Skywalker has already done more for this Government that you ever will.

Would you risk your own life for a mission that you may or may not agree with, just because the Governement asks you?

Would you fight in Iraq if asked?

No? Then stop Mooching off the Men and Women who keep this Country free and the Governement working..

Can you get me an ID10T form please? I know you have one handy....

Posted by: cwilli at August 6, 2005 05:54 PM

"Doesnt the +25% of his paycheck going directly to the governement count?"

i guess you come form the fox news school of selective quotation.

"The most hilarious thing about your statement is that Skywalker has already done more for this Government that you ever will."

is that so? so you know me and everything ive done and Will do?

"Would you risk your own life for a mission that you may or may not agree with, just because the Governement asks you?...
Would you fight in Iraq if asked?"

i think the question should be, Will You fight in Iraq if asked? i support a military draft, and the way recruitment is so low, it looks like we may be heading in that direction in the future. will you be putting your words where your mouth is? you know im pretty sure all branches of the military could use YOU right about now, especially the army. if your not already enlisted, i think your local recruiters would love to have you and your HOOAH attitude.

Posted by: mooseboy84 at August 6, 2005 06:18 PM

I spent 8 years in the Marine Corps Reserves. They have my number and hell yes I will go if called.

and by the way, I have the OOOHRAAA attitude. Not that Hoopah shit.

I dont need to know your life to tell you never did anything for your Country. I can tell.

Am I wrong? Have you ever worn the uniform or done one single thing for your Country?

Am I wrong????

BTW Marine Corps recruitment meets its quota every time. Its the only service that does.

and you still did not answer my question, saying you would support the draft is one thing, Actually doing it is another.

Skywalker is actually doing it. Not yesterday or last year, RIGHT NOW. So that pretty much kills your "STOP MOOCHING OFF ME" crap.

Stop Mooching off him. Because he will fight and die for your right to be an idiot and say whatever you want. I highly doubt you would do that same for him.

Posted by: cwilli at August 6, 2005 07:59 PM

Good to have you back, cwilli.:-D

Posted by: mrs. muddy at August 6, 2005 08:10 PM
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