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But heaven forbid you bring the war to the enemy and fight them on their soil instead of yours. Thats makes you evil.

Bill Clinton should be brought up on charges. He is responsible for over 3000 American civilian deaths.

Sad how many of you are willing to trade financial security for national security.

Or is the left no longer harping about the economy because it didnt win them the election?

good to have you back cwilli!

:-)

Of course the fact that Bush forbid investigation in the bin laden friend family is a lie. As we all know. Besides there is nothing shadowy in the 9/11 attacks, there's no doubt a huge plane hit the pentagon even though no debris were found, there's no problem if some of the alledged hijackers are still alive in different countries of the middle east, and no error can be put on the administration (let alone complicity at high levels) in the fact that the plane were never even spotted by US army aircrafts even though they had more than 30 minutes to do that.
There were several war games going on 9/11 but of course if the hijackers attacked that day it's a plain coincidence ...

So let's say it's all CLinton's fault and let's not investigate Bush, because after all, hey, he's a friend and a man of God.
(not to mention the fact that it's impossible to be rich and follow God's word as self evident for those who read the bible)

Cwilli it's awful to see you back.

But heaven forbid you bring the war to the enemy and fight them on their soil instead of yours. Thats makes you evil.

What do you mean by that Cwilli ?
If you mean Afganhistan, then of course it was OK for the USA to invade afganhistan, the UNO agreed on this, and may I remember there are french militaries in afganhistan.

If you mean Iraq then again, you're out of touch with reality. There were no terrorist in Iraq before the USA invaded it. There are thousands of them right now, numbers and quality growing, because of the US invasion. That's the reality of the iraki invasion. THe USA has provided a training ground that the terrorists had lost when RUssia left afganhistan (they also have chechnyah, that's true).
Bringing terrorism in Iraq was not evil, it was just plain stupid.
hopefully democracy can be build in the end, however the US policy so far has not been very effective and many mistakes were made.
Yet even americans can learn of their errors so hopefully it'll work out, unless al qaeda succeeds in making chiites angry at sunnites and all angry at kurds and vice versa, until civil war breaks out.
That's the business going on right now.

BTW most of the people said to have hijacked the airplanes were from saoudi arabia. Was any action taken against this country ?

why would action be taken against saudi arabia? the bush clan is in too deep with BANDAR Bush and his family. why would Bush ruin a friendship that has made him and his family so much money?

i also find it intresting how you can blame Clinton on this, when it was in september 2000, a year before 9/11, and 9 months into Bushs regime, when the pentagon denied the information be transfered.

its funny how you find a way to blame clinton for all these systemic internal problems of the intelligence agencies.

Yea, its funny that I can blame the President for systemic internal problems of the intelligence agencies THAT WERE UNDER HIM FOR 8 YEARS.

"why would action be taken against saudi arabia? the bush clan is in too deep with BANDAR Bush and his family. why would Bush ruin a friendship that has made him and his family so much money?"

you have been watching too many Michael Moore movies.

How quickly you forget that Bush couldnt even take over as president for 4 of those 9 months because of the election problems.

It is absolutley hilarious that your complete rage against Bush blinds you to any wrong doing of the Clinton administration during the previous 8 years.

As long as the economy is good, lets not worry about security. As long as the economy is good, lets not worry about teaching our kids that its NOT ok to have oral sex with interns. As long as the economy is good, lets not worry about lying under oath.

No, its still all Bush's fault, right? If Bush would have been President during those 8 years, thats exactly what you would be saying.

HILARIOUS. Lets bring those who are wrong to justice, as long as its not Bill Clinton

Here here Cwilli!

THere's nothing wrong with pointing clinton's mistakes, errors and wrong doings.

But you wrote "This is just more proof that Bill Clinton was responsible for 9/11"
You might as well have written he was flying the planes.

There are many proofs that bush's administration did not do anything to prevent 9/11 at a time where it had much more information than Clinton's.
If you work in shift, and if a major incident happens during your shift. It's OK to say that the shift just prior to you miss some opportunities to correct a problem that degenerated into the incident you face.
However it does not erase the fact that you personnaly could have tackled the problem in a better way when in charge.
Bush's administration did a terrible job in preventing 9/11, in studying the causes of 9/11 and in suiing and/or sanctionning those who were responsible of the mistakes.
It resisted as long as it could to the creation of the 9/11 commission, it did not cooperate really with it. No sanctions have been taken whatsoever against those in charge.
WHat's more Bush used 9/11 to launch a war against Iraq which gave the ideal opportunity for terrorists to hire new recruits and train them on the field ...
So all in all Clinton's administration and clinton as a president have made mistakes errors and fault, however it is evident to anyone with a brain that bush's administration carries most of the responsability of not acting to prevent 9/11 and investigate afterwards.

(where is ben laden ? Dead ?)
As a final it is self apparent that all you are seeking cwili is to outrage others.
As far as i know the oral sex clinton received is unrelated to 9/11 however you look at it.

You might say it is related to corruption scandal, to sexual harrasment scandal, to lie under oath, to bombings in Iraq and other places (sudan I guess). But 9/11 ?
So all you want is spill hate everywhere. Well I tell you what it's working.

DF, You exactly made my point. Blame Bush no matter what.

Clinton had 3 offers to have Bin Ladin handed over ,after he was already on the most wanted list.

He turned all of them down.

Bush was on the job for 6 months tops when this happened and you say its his fault? CLINTON WAS ON THE JOB 8 YEARS. HE DISMANTLED BOTH THE FBI AND CIA, and you say Bush is just as much to blame?

I do shift work DF. If a known problem blew up after I was on my shift 15 min and the previous shift didnt do their job, It would be the previous shifts fault, no question.

But since your a socialist, I dont expect you to understand that using a non union example. In fact, you ALL would have been on a paid break during the whole thing anyhow.

We should choose a different example. I dont think I can teach you the concept of work ethics, your French.

Whatever you rant cwilli, it is self evident to everybody that Bush has not been up to the challenge. He missed significant opportunities in those 6 months before and he missed opportunities bigger than the galaxy after the event happened.

People do work in France cwilli, they do build lots of stuff, I think they rank second in productivity per hour now behind USA and have ranked first for some years.

But keep on with your mantra :
markets are good
Capitalism is fun
God loves america
etc.
If it does you good.