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i heard on a Radio show, that the doctor had told her she needed to lose weight, because she wouldnt be able to get a husband. now if its true he said she wouldnt be able to get a husband, that is crossing the line And thats wrong.

telling her shes obese is one thing, but making comments about her not being able to get married is none of his business.

true, however if he just told her that she needs to loose weight (which anyone with sense can figure out if your fat or not, I know I need to loose 20lbs or so) then she's so very wrong for complaining.

Well, *supposedly*:

"He said he tells obese women they most likely will outlive an obese spouse and will have a difficult time establishing a new relationship because studies show most males are completely negative to obese women."

that's according to:
http://www.theunionleader.com/articles_showa.html?article=59407

If that's true then maybe it's not the best bed side manner but it's definately no cause for filing a complaint. It's true, he didn't have to get personal with the woman BUT he was saying that about *every* obese woman AND being blunt about it. Besides, if she didn't like the way he delieverd the message, she should have just taken it up with him and then just found another doctor.

Crossing a line...maybe. But we have this thing called freedom of speech in this country. If she didn't like it, she could go to a different doctor. Wah wah, tear tear, cry cry.

I find the all story appaling. Gee.

Aside from that, why do you think that she's a liberal ?
a because she's obese ?
b because she's filing a complaint ?

For your information the USA is the country with the higher obesity rate, and the higher number of lawyers in the all wide world.

However, the USA is not the most liberal country.
In fact many countries have better health system, school system, pension system, lower economic inequalities, higher redistribution of wealth etc.

so ?

Define better health system? Cause it seems that people from all over the world come here just to be treated.

And the implication is that she's a liberal since she wants to live off someone else.

how the hell does being Fat = liberal? How is this woman trying to Live off someone else?

Health system means the way you provide health to the citizens of a country.

As a whole, US citizens live shorter lives have more heart diseases, obesity, infant deaths etc. than europeans or canadians.
SO you can say the US health system is not good.

Of course many people come to the US to be treated, lots of people come to europe too. Depends from where you live.
However the US semi private system and full with lawsuits is the most expansive system. SO only the richest fly to the USA.

If people who live of someone else are liberal then how come 100 % of the wealthiest people are not liberals ?
After all if some people live off others it is those share holders doin nothing and taking all the profit.

I guess if you add up all the food stamps and other government aid to the poors "living" on the government, you do not come close to all the profit made by wealthy people "living" on workers.

"As a whole, US citizens live shorter lives have more heart diseases, obesity, infant deaths etc. than europeans or canadians.
SO you can say the US health system is not good."

Well, I don't know how acurate *that* is (though it may be interresting to look at someday.... I really don't care for the most part). As far as the heart disease and obesity goes - that doesn't have as much to do with our health care system as it have to do more with our diet and life style(s). Americans are gluttonous with food that is proccessed crap. Fast/junk food, possessed, GMO's, refined foods. Not to mention a *huge* intake of animal protien and not enough exercise.

There are medicines comming out every day of how to ease the symptoms and "cure" things like heart disease, high blood pressure, obesity, diabeties, ect. However, those medicines are NOT *cures*. They are just band-aids put over only the symptoms of the core of diseases. and those symptoms are just the body's way of telling us that something is off balance. The medicines are working. Unfortunately, they're working well enough to fool people into thinking they are "cured" when in actuality....there's a much deeper problem. And, I'm sure that part goes on in different places throughout the world.

I agree that it has a lot to with diet. Probably more than with the health system hospitals nurse etc.
Right now we are witnessing some growth of obesity in France, immediately some action has been taken to limit access to sugars in school. I doubt obesity could grow by much more without serious action taken against advertisement for unhealthy products.
We have also gvt sponsored publicity advising sport practice.
I believe that's part of the point, preventive action is better and can only be taken if you distrust the market system. Indeed the health of the consumer is not the primary goal of the restauration and food industry.

But OK, if you want to stick with health system then I should mention only longer lives, more people insured, less infant deaths,

In fact if you want to know african americans live shorter lives than poor indians in Kerala (India).
They have the tv and airconditionning for sure, but a worse health.

"But OK, if you want to stick with health system then I should mention only longer lives, more people insured, less infant deaths,"

Well, the average age for a man here (I believe...but I could be off a few years) is around the 70's to 80's. For women it's around the 80's. So we are actually living longer here than we ever have been. Which is why they're considering raising the retierment age - again. Europe may be doing as good or better just like places like Japan...but I wouldn't buy that theory in 3rd world countries.

Same with infant deaths. Again, I'm sure Europe has similar medical advancements like we do (especially England where my sister had her baby early at 34 weeks of pregnancy. They're doing good and are home now thanks to the medical experties of the british hospital they were in) ....but, again, in 3rd world countries...they wouldn't have the advanced medical needs to help someone well - like a premature infant.

Personally, though, I think anyone can beat the odds in any situation. You just have to take personal responsibility and quit relying on the government to take care of you. Funds are only going to be so much anyway and they're not responsible for your sorry butt for an extended period of time anyway. You need help - fine - but I firmly believe people would do much better if they take care of their own and then lent out a helping hand to others at the same time encouraging personal resposibility. Which is what some people and group have been preaching for years and some are called racist and predjudiced for it.:-/

Oh btw:

"...immediately some action has been taken to limit access to sugars in school."

I do believe we should do more of that here too. American schools should definately crack down more on what our students are being served. It's starting in alot of areas but alot more needs to be done.

I agree people have to take care of themselves.
No arguing here.
And I agree also the US Health system is WAY WAY above the thirld ones.
It's just for some people (working poors) it has huge loop holes.

I think, part of the problems of the USA come from overreliance on common law, and unefficient politics. If you had better policies, for instance mandatory health care, mandatory coverage in case of health accidents ... you would have less trials, it would cost less in private insurances, lack of cooperation, mistrust etc.
Sometimes the cult of "I can do it myself", ends up with each citizen holding a gun (and many home accidents related to this fact) and each citizen suiing for it's own case, instead of a law or regulations settling the thing once and for all.

And again, everywhere in europe there's more and more trials, more and more guns running around, so we're following the path, but we're unhappy with it. It's more like a lose lose path out of distrust for politicians and the authorities...

And things are pretty complicated anyway so it's hard to say things clearly, but i think we all agree there's a problem when a woman files a complaint for being told she's fat (I mean she could ve seek excuses first and look for here responsability n there and understood that there is no "right" to being fat, just like there is no right to be unhappy, illiterate and handicapped. Rights are there for the better (right to work, right to health, right to seek happyness).