February 22, 2006

Maybe Saddam was right

Mosque Attack Pushes Iraq Toward Civil War

Insurgents posing as police destroyed the golden dome of one of Iraq's holiest Shiite shrines Wednesday, setting off an unprecendented spasm of sectarian violence. Angry crowds thronged the streets, militiamen attacked Sunni mosques, and at least 19 people were killed.

With the gleaming dome of the 1,200-year-old Askariya shrine reduced to rubble, some Shiites lashed out at the United States as partly to blame.

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I cannot believe that I'm even considering that maybe Saddam was right all along. You need a vicious dictator to keep these people in line. Other wise they would wipe each other out.
I understand all they know is violence, and for decades all they have had is violence, however would that not PUSH You to be peaceful?
Is this just another example that the Muslim religion is not peaceful but full of intolerance and hatred?? Unfortunately, I have no answers at this time. Only questions.
(afterthought)
Perhaps it's mearly the cycle of violence morphing into this. -Ed

Posted by Muddy at February 22, 2006 09:49 PM



Comments

This region lived for centuries peacefully without a dictator.

Remember that the majority of the "insurgents" aren't Iraqi.

Posted by: skywalker at February 23, 2006 04:56 PM

If they arnt Iraqi, who are they? People who were born and lived there all their life? the FBI or DOD released in a memo or report several months ago, that stated the MAJORITY of the "insurgents" were native Iraqis that wanted to occupation to end.

Posted by: mooseboy84 at February 23, 2006 08:54 PM

People on the ground are pulling jordanian and syrian passports off of dead bodies, that answer your question?

Posted by: skywalker at February 23, 2006 10:50 PM

People can pull jordanian and syrian passports out of a minority of dead bodies, sky, I don't see any contradiction there. Besides, I can't see why those people would have their passports on them when going to a suicidal attack.

Anyway...

Of course the civil war, can not possibly be related to the fact that

A. Historically, the sunnites have oppressed the chiites and the kurds, those ones are now may be not so keen on forgiving, and the sunnites rightly fear repression.
This is a natural unfolding of events. Remember yougoslavia, rwanda, and for older events : german-polish and tchechs relations... Peace building is always tough.


B. there are foreign armies in the country, foreign armies backing the illegal occupation of palestine by Israeli forces.

This draws support for an ongoing insurgency.

This has strengthened anti US sentiment around the arab and muslim population and in so doing led to even stronger anti democratic governments in the region.
Iran was on the brink of democracy some 10 years ago, it now is ruled by an anti US, anti Israel, religious fanatic.

C. THere are neighbouring countries, not democratic at all, who have no interest at all in a strong and democratic Iraq, and who are from different confessions. They are not exactly working for peaceful solutions.
Remember Yougoslavia, Germany backed the croats, Russia the serbs, and here we went for civil war.

None of these things are especially muslim stuff.
Civil war have a long long history starting with the peloponesian wars (greece), I think the chinese civil war between the 7 kingdoms is even older...

Posted by: DF at February 25, 2006 02:30 AM

of course, I think it's worth remembering that France opposed to the US led wars on the following grounds :
- arm inspections are working
- it is doubtful that there are much WMD left
- There are major risks of increasing instability by launching such a war.

3 years later :
no WMD found
A country close to civil war
A country that is now training ground for terrorists ready to test their powers in western countries
Heightened anti US anti ISrael and anti western sentiment
Less oil production in iraq, with a stagnating iraq economy, still below prewar levels ...

It's not exactly a success.
The major reason for going to war has been disproved and the handling of the post war situation has been moot.

Let's hope the irakis will realise that they have nothing to gain in a civil war.
One possible solution could be chiites trying to gain political support from the sunnites by asking the USA to leave, with the US becoming the scape goat of the present mess.
If not that ... possible partition. And in this case, well, let's hope Turkey will not get in the mess and try to fight the kurd autonomy ...

Posted by: DF at February 25, 2006 02:44 AM
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